Can you believe they really said this…4

Oh yes – there’s still more… so many more to come…

I am sure it happens because academics are very, very busy people, and they prefer to do research than spend a lot of time writing papers. If the industry puts forward a method of relieving them of that chore, then I am sure that that does happen throughout the industry. That would be true generally. Is it a good idea? I think it can be, as long as everybody is in agreement with what is written at the end of the day, the results and what they are.
Sir Richard Sykes
former Chairman of GlaxoSmithKline
On the industry practice of “ghostwriting medical reports” and “gift authorship.” 12/7/2004


We have acted responsibly in conducting clinical studies in pediatric patients and the dissemination of the results. We would strongly disagree with any allegation that we have done otherwise.

Dr. Tadataka Yamada
Chairman of Research and Development
GlaxoSmithKline
6/19/2004

You can experience symptoms, as you can with other SSRIs and as you can with other kinds of medicines as well.
Mary Anne Rhyne
GlaxoSmithKline spokesperson
12/13/2003

What we have seen in terms of the anecdotal reports [of Paxil withdrawal] is that it happens very rarely.
Dr. David Wheadon
Senior Vice President
GlaxoSmithKline Regulatory Affairs and Product Professional Services
8/25/2000

While GlaxoSmithKline strives to produce medications that safely and effectively treat medical conditions, we’re also committed to protecting the environment.
Dr. Anne Phillips
Chief Medical Officer of GlaxoSmithKline
source: GlaxoSmithKline

As you can see here, few numbers of patients experienced any adverse event after being randomized off [Paxil] into the placebo group and the percentages are certainly very small. But these were the common adverse events seen in that small population in our attempt to systematically assess a discontinuation syndrome.
Dr. David Wheadon
Senior Vice President
GlaxoSmithKline Regulatory Affairs and Product Professional Services Excerpt from a transcript of the FDA Review of Paxil
10/5/1992

I have my iPod and my Bose headphones. You can run anywhere. I’m in a bubble. When I go home I don’t talk about my job. It drives my wife crazy because when we go out she doesn’t know anybody. Socially we see politicians we have to and she knows nothing about the issues. But that’s the way I like it. I want to go home and say, ‘hey what happened to you?’ I have a very demanding job and I don’t want to go home and discuss the same stories.
Jean-Pierre Garnier
Chief Executive Officer
GlaxoSmithKline
4/23/2005

We feel strongly that we have an obligation to speak up both for the millions of patients that Seroxat allows to lead a normal life, and for our employees whose commitment to this important medicine has made such a positive difference to so many people.
Eddie Gray
General Manager
GlaxoSmithKline UK
10/10/2002

My mum, you know, she thinks her son walks on water…..
Jean-Pierre Garnier
Chief Executive Officer, GlaxoSmithKline
4/23/2005

….recognize that in the final analysis success rests on selecting the right people to work with. If you have the right people, the rest will follow.
Jan Leschly
Former CEO of SmithKline Beecham
Fast Forward: The Best Ideas on Managing Business Change

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6 Responses to “Can you believe they really said this…4”

  1. Matthew Holford Says:

    “….recognize that in the final analysis success rests on selecting the right people to work with. If you have the right people, the rest will follow.
    Jan Leschly
    Former CEO of SmithKline Beecham
    Fast Forward: The Best Ideas on Managing Business Change”

    Oh, boy! Did you ever get that right.

    Matt

  2. Matthew Holford Says:

    “As you can see here, few numbers of patients experienced any adverse event after being randomized off [Paxil] into the placebo group and the percentages are certainly very small. But these were the common adverse events seen in that small population in our attempt to systematically assess a discontinuation syndrome.
    Dr. David Wheadon
    Senior Vice President
    GlaxoSmithKline Regulatory Affairs and Product Professional Services Excerpt from a transcript of the FDA Review of Paxil
    10/5/1992″

    “Relatively few”. As compared to what? Everything’s relative, David. Thus 25% is relatively few, when compared to the majority.

    However, 25 million people looks like a lot, which just happens to be 25% of the 100 million people said to be taking Seroxat, worldwide. 25% now being the number, which GSK accepts as being affected by withdrawal symptoms, I understand.

    If only 25% of my braincells were active, I’d still be able to manipulate data faster than you, David. Everything’s relative.

    Matt

  3. truthman30 Says:

    All of these Quotes are laughable…
    They remind me of WW2 Nazi Propaganda..
    But , maybe in effect , that is what they actually are…

    It seems that the Fascist regimes of the past have been replaced by the corporate ideologies of the present…
    Same bullshit , different mouth…
    The Pharmaceutical corporations are well versed in the ways of mass manipulation and deception of the public…
    Corporate money machines like them are not concerned with the truth..
    In fact, it is the least of their concerns…
    Their only concern is maximization of profit…
    And they will do that by any means necessary
    They have no regard for human life or suffering…
    It is in their interest only to promote diseases and compound illnesses through toxic medications ..
    They have no interest in “cures”…
    Pharmacetical companies such as GSK are monstrous entities, and their sole purpose of existence is to make money…
    How can we expect a “machine” to have compassion or empathy? ..
    We can’t..
    But in that entity, there are human beings pulling the strings, steering its direction and greasing the wheels…Making sure the cash keeps flowing in…
    Should we expect them to have “humanity” just because they are human beings? ..
    I don’t think so , because one thing is certain,all people have the capability to behave and treat their own kind with the most unimaginable inhumanity…Just some choose not to…
    Some have consciences , some have not…
    Couple that human capability with insatiable greed, corrupt power, and a corporate ideology devoid of “conscience” and you have a new definiton of “fascism”, but fascism nonetheless…

  4. Matthew Holford Says:

    The difference (let’s hope), is that anybody speaking out against a dictatorship would be “disappeared”. GSK silences with threats of legal action, injunctions and gagging orders. And a stony silence of its own, of course, which is presumably designed to intimidate (LMAO).

    Except it doesn’t silence anybody. Not any more. As our host pointed out, recently: this is what the Internet has gifted us.

    I imagine that there are good people at GSK. However, the world is operated on the basis of fear. One is granted something, anything, a job, let’s say, but on the express understanding that it may be taken away if one does not comply with the rules, as I discovered. Now, if the rules are as you suggest, then nobody’s going to write them down, so people have to learn them by trial and error. If one raises an issue, and is shouted down, or ignored, one will understand that such behaviour is not appreciated, and one turns a blind eye to dubious conduct, in future, for fear of losing one’s job, one’s livelihood.

    The higher one gets up the ladder, the deeper in one gets, and the more sordid details one has at one’s disposal. One has the fear, now, not only of being fired for raising one’s hand, but also of being implicated in any wrongdoing, because most likely one will have been involved in whatever it is one has spotted, in order to have spotted it.

    Moreover, as I discovered, one can tell as much truth as one likes, but if the management close ranks, and constructs a story without reference to one, which demonstrates that everything one has to say is a pack of lies, then one not only loses one’s position, but one’s reputation with it, to the extent that one values other people’s opinion of one. That’s a lot of fear, and it’s a lot of leverage to have over one’s employees.

    This is what “inhumanity” is, I think: it’s when one knows what is right, but one is wholly compromised by circumstances, and is obliged to take a different course. I think when a person acts inhumanely towards another, it is because they see that other person as less than they are. That is, the “victim” is not human.

    I write this founded upon the way that opposing sides tend to behave towards one another in wartime. Mass rape, genocide, that kind of thing. If one suspected that one’s drug had lethal side effects, one would have to consider that the intended recipients were nothing other than units of consumption, an expendable commodity, like a stack of origami paper: if one gets it wrong, one doesn’t worry: screw it up and start afresh with the next one.

    Hmm, I’ve waffled on rather longer than I had intended!

    Matt

  5. truthman30 Says:

    Good points Matt…
    Just to Add..
    If GSK employees live in such a climate of fear, of which may well be true, then also wouldn’t it be easier for them to become desensitized themselves as human beings, thus the public lose their human face and become nothing but “targets”, “victims” and “statistics”…

    If this is the state of Affairs ,then I pity the GSK Employees who have become assimilated into this nightmarish corporate monster…
    But, I do not pity those who have knowingly done so…
    What makes us human is our free will , and our freedom to choose based on an awareness of conscience V’s survival…
    There are always other ways to earn money…

    Selling your soul to the highest bidder is not “survival”..
    It goes against the guiding principles of humanity..
    And it defies the pillars of reason and undertanding which support conscience, which in turn becomes the rot of “corruption”…

    Unfortunately, People who were prescribed Seroxat were given no such “choice” of free will and they were also in effect dehumanized and in a lot of cases even their very basic abilities and survival instincts were severly impaired or destroyed by Seroxat and the subsequent psycholgical trauma of withdrawal only served to compound the psycho-spiritual massacre which was unleashed upon them..
    When profit becomes the top priority and ethics become non-existent , any money generated becomes tarnished with a sour smell… A smell so nauseating, that it could only be recognised as profit from misery…
    And some might say that to knowingly inflict suffering and bloodshed on such a scale of the Seroxat Scandal is unforgivable no matter what the circumstances were…

  6. Matthew Holford Says:

    Well, you’re right, of course: “I was just following orders” has never been a recognized defence. There are some things that basic humanity require that one refuses to do.

    However, I can see that somebody who was gradually drawn into something, such that one day, without having actually “thrown the gas pellets into the chamber”, one finds oneself at the hub of something appalling, which one has contributed to, in a manifest way, without realizing it, would struggle to know what to do. Who does one talk to about that sort of thing? One knows what the consequence will be if one speaks out: one will lose one’s livelihood, and depending upon the nature of the business, everybody else may close ranks and cover up the wrongdoing, even manufacturing a story, which demonstrates that one was a rogue, and that they were innocent dupes, who never guessed. Maybe that’s what’s planned for some of GSK’s marketing personnel, even as we speak…

    Not that this will be done with our knowledge, of course, unless GSK sees it as a valuable PR exercize to regain public confidence [sic].

    Matt


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