More on Shane Clancy and Dr Michael Corry

I’ve had a couple of comments about this story that I think are worthy of bringing to the fore:

This first comment is from an interview in the Irish press with Shane’s father, Patrick:

Shane was taking it for about a week when he took the remaining three weeks’ supply in one day, possibly an attempt at suicide. He told his mother what had happened. Two days later, she took her son to another GP. It was explained to the second doctor that Shane had taken a high dosage of Citrol two days previously. The GP prescribed Cipramil, another brand of citalopram.

As this GP was aware Shane had misused antidepressants two days previously, it was instructed on the three-week prescription that the chemist should only supply Shane with one week of the drug at a time, according to his father. But when Shane went to fill the second prescription, the chemist asked him if he wanted to get the three-week prescription filled at once, and Shane said yes. It was Friday 14 August. His family believe Shane took another high dosage of antidepressants the next day. In the early hours of 16 August, Shane Clancy carried out his attack.

“Shane was the type of person who was always careful about taking pills. If he had a Lemsip, he’d phone me to ask if he could take paracetamol as well a few hours later. I don’t know if he was attempting suicide when he took three weeks’ worth of antidepressants in one day. I might never know,” says his father.

“I don’t want to be seen as pointing the finger at the doctors or the chemist but surely if it said to only give him one week’s supply at a time, the chemist should have followed that instruction.”

The whole interview can be read here.

The second comment sheds some light on the complaint made against Dr Michael Corry:

This is absolutely outrageous, but I am not surprised that the (predominantly pharma-funded) psychiatric community in Ireland is baying for Michael Corry’s blood.. He has been a strong critic of both the influence of the industry and the misdeeds of his own profession for quite some time now… It is always the brave ones who go up against the “status quo” whom are first to be attacked..

On the subject of which senior psychiatrist complained about Michael Corry… ?
Read the following article

Professor of Psychiatry charges Dr Michael Corry at Medical Council
A senior psychiatrist, Professor Timothy Dinan of University College, Cork, has laid a complaint against Dr Michael Corry at the Medical Council. The complaint concerns Michael Corry’s statements about the role of SSRI antidepressants in the murder/suicide of Sebastian Creane and Shane Clancy.

Dinan, who is an enthusiastic advocate of SSRIs and SNRIs and has declared his close relations with several drug companies, accuses Dr Corry of “”statements regarding the pharmacology of antidepressants” and of making “statements regarding a diagnosis without ever seeing the patient”.

Dinan has joined in a previous attempt to chill discussion of the effects of antidepressants. Signing himself as Timothy Dinan, MD, PhD, FRCPsych, FRCPI, Professor of Psychiatry, University College Cork, the academic was one of six professors of psychiatry who penned a letter published in the Irish Times on 16 November 2006 demanding the resignation of the then Minister for Mental Health, Tim O’Malley, for two reasons. One, O’Malley had dared to suggest that many everyday difficulties of life were being mis-labeled as ‘clinical depression’. Secondly, he had dared to suggest, with good reason, that the alleged benefits of medications used to treat mental illness cannot be proven scientifically in the way that other medications can. Both suggestions are cardinal sins for those who rule the world of psychiatry, and whose word is law among the students they teach.

WE MUST DEFEND MICHAEL CORRY’S RIGHT TO SPEAK OUT!

To defend Dr Michael Corry we need other health professionals to stand by him.
We appeal to doctors and nurses, especially psychiatric nurses, together with psychotherapists and counsellors, who are concerned at this attack on the right of medical professionals to oppose the monopoly of bio-psychiatry and are willing to stand up and be counted.

Please contact Dr Corry’s defence team: email wellbeing[at]wellbeingfoundation.com
(use the @ symbol instead of [at] )

The most chilling part of Professor Timothy Dinan’s complaint is that Corry made “statements regarding the pharmacology of antidepressants”. If such a complaint is upheld as valid, neither Dr Corry nor any other doctor registered with the Medical Council will ever again be able to ‘make a statement’ on the action of a drug such as Seroxat or Lexapro — or, by extension, of any drug.

Are you willing to allow this to happen?
Send objections to Professor Timothy Dinan’s complaint to:
Mr John Sidebotham
Professional Standards Department Medical Council
Lynn House
Portobello Court
Lower Rathmines Road Dublin 6
Fax: 01 4983103
Email: complaints@mcirl.ie

Timothy Dinan is well known for his pharma-connections in Ireland…. . Need we say more? …
Timothy Dinan puts his name to pro-SSRI literature and advertising, ones such as this “leaflet” for Lundbeck pharmaceuticals (biggest distributers of SSRI meds in Ireland)

17 Responses to “More on Shane Clancy and Dr Michael Corry”

  1. Dorothee Krien Says:

    Also posted at:
    http://psychiatricnews.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/irish-psychiatric-inquisition-of-dr-michael-corry/

    I just searched for “suicidality, violence SSRIs” in PubMed and only found a review by Timothy Dinan – yes, the very same – but not the one by Peter Breggin. A clear case of scientific censorship.

    Acta Psychiatr Scand. 2001 Aug;104(2):84-91.
    Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors and violence: a review of the available evidence.
    Walsh MT, Dinan TG.

    Department of Psychiatry, Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, Dublin 2, Ireland.

    OBJECTIVE: To provide a clinically useful analysis of the relationship between selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), in particular fluoxetine and violent or suicidal behaviour. METHOD: All published papers on Medline and other databases linking serotonin, SSRIs and aggression were reviewed. RESULTS: A small proportion of patients treated with SSRIs may become akathisic and others may show increases in anxiety in the initial phase of treatment, but no increased susceptibility to aggression or suicidality can be connected with fluoxetine or any other SSRI. In fact SSRI treatment may reduce aggression, probably due to positive effects on the serotonergic dysfunction that is implicated in aggressive behaviour directed towards oneself or others. CONCLUSION: In the absence of convincing evidence to link SSRIs causally to violence and suicide, the recent lay media reports are potentially dangerous, unnecessarily increasing the concerns of depressed patients who are prescribed antidepressants.
    PMID: 11473500 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]

    And compare it to Peter Breggin’s findings.

    http://www.breggin.com/31-49.pdf

    Please distribute widely!

    Suicidality, violence and mania cause by selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs): A review and analysis

    Peter R. Breggin
    101 East State Street, No. 112, Ithaca, NY 14850, USA

    Abstract: Evidence from many sources confirms that selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) commonly cause or exacerbate a wide range of abnormal mental and behavioral conditions. These adverse drug reactions include the following overlapping clinical phenomena: a stimulant profile that ranges from mild agitation to manic psychoses, agitated depression, obsessive preoccupations that are alien or uncharacteristic of the individual, and akathisia. Each of these reactions can worsen the individual’s mental condition and can result in suicidality, violence, and other forms of extreme behavior. Evidence for these reactions is found in clinical reports, controlled clinical trials, and epidemiological studies in children and adults. Recognition of these adverse drug reactions and withdrawal from the offending drugs can prevent misdiagnosis and the worsening of potentially severe iatrogenic disorders. These findings also have forensic application in criminal, malpractice, and product liability cases. [p.31]

    Conclusions:

    There are many reports and studies confirming that SSRI antidepressants can cause violence, suicide, manic and other forms of psychotic and bizarre behavior. Overall, the SSRIs produce violence, suicide and extremes of abnormal behavior by a variety of mechanisms. Teicher et al [1] suggest nine possible mechanisms: (1) energizing the depressed suicidal patient, (2) paradoxically worsening the individual’s depression, (3) causing akathisia, (4) causing panic and anxiety, (5) causing manic or mixed manic-depressive states, (6) causing insomnia or disturbances in the sleeping architecture, (7) causing obsessive suicidal preoccupations, (8) causing borderline states of hostility, and (9) causing alterations in EEG activity. Teicher et al. document each of these phenomena in their review of the literature and, as this paper indicates, the scientific evidence has grown considerably stronger in the intervening decade.
    With the exception the alternative in EEG activity, my clinical and forensic work has confirmed that each of above SSRI- and NSRI-induces phenomena can cause violent and suicidal behavior. However, my clinical and forensic experiences and reviews in the literature that four syndromes encompass most of the phenomena and describe most of the individual cases:

    (1) The repoductiion of a stimulant continuum that often begins with lesser degree of insomnia, nervousness, anxiety, hyperactivity and irritability and then progress toward more ever agitation, aggression, and varying degrees of mania. Mania or mania-like symptoms include disinhibition, grandiosity, sleep disturbances, and out-of-control aggressive behavior, including cycling into depression and suidcidality.
    (2) The production fo a combined state of stimulation and depression – an agitated depression – with a high risk of suicide and violence. Often the overall depression is markedly worsened.
    (3) The production if akathisia, an inner agitation or jitteriness that is usually (but not always) accompanied by an inability to stop moving. It is sometimes described as psychomotor agitation or restless leg syndrome. The state causes heightened irritability and frustration with aggression against and others, and often a generally worsening of the mental condition.

    The above often appears in combination with each other. Often the syndromes will abate within days after stopping the SSRI but sometimes they persist, leding to hospitalization and additional treatment over subsequent weeks or months. Reported cases for these syndromes vary widely but each of them appears to be relatively common. They frequently occur in individuals with no prior history for violence, suicidality, psychomotor agitations, or manic-like symptoms. [p46]

    Footnote 1: M. Teicher, C. Glod and J. Cole, Antidepressant drugs and suicidal tendencies, Drug Safety 8 (1993), 182-212

  2. admin Says:

    Tim Dinan does seem to like SSRIs, doesn’t he… I wonder why?

    I think his links to big pharma are well documented, so maybe that accounts for his views?

    I wonder if he’s ever taken an SSRI? If not then he’s no expert – but I am, and I’m here to tell you that he’s wrong.

  3. Paul O'Mahony (Cork) Says:

    Good to find your blog this evening. It’s very heartening to find others making an effort to improve things for people like me.

  4. truthman30 Says:

    Indeed it is amazing how Tim Dinan seems to defend SSRI’s so vehemently whilst at the same time condemning his colleague Michael Corry for his own views…

    (but then again we have seen these scenarios play out time and time again in the world of the pharmaceutical-psychiatry alliance)

    And yes, I agree admin… I wonder if he tried some SSRI’s for a few years would be be so quick to praise them? …

  5. anon Says:

    Timothy Dinan , Bruce Pollock and David Nutt are all staunch advocates of SSRI meds. They are all also present as faculty members for Lundbeck Pharmaceuticals .

    http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:kqfCf2l7hW8J:www.cnsforum.com/streamfile.aspx%3Ffilename%3D2005_brochure.pdf%26path%3Dpdf+Timothy+Dinan+Lundbeck&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari

  6. anon Says:

    See Page 7 for list of faculty members of “Lundbeck Institute World of Knowledge” .

    I don’t know about you people, but in my opinion, any psychiatrist who is on pharmaceutical payroll has an inherent bias towards whomever it is that pays his bills.

  7. anon Says:

    http://wellbeingfoundation.com/news1.html

    Psych boss gears up to persecute Michael Corry

    A ‘senior psychiatrist’, UCC Professor Timothy ‘Ted’ Dinan, has laid a complaint against Dr Michael Corry at the Medical Council.
    In a letter to the Council’s Fitness to Practice Committee, Dinan said Dr Corry had made comments about a tragedy “without regard for the distress” caused to the families; had “made allegations regarding the competence” of a colleague [by suggesting a colleague treated a patient that rendered him homicidal and suicidal]; “made statements regarding a diagnosis without ever seeing the patient”; and made “statements regarding the pharmacology of antidepressants”.
    The professor has made previous attempts to chill debate on the mental health services and on the dangers, efficacy or otherwise of the treatments his profession holds dear, in particular the use of SSRIs and SNRIs to treat depression and other complaints.
    The professor has close relations with several of the makers of the drugs he espouses and defends, and whose critics he is trying to silence. A statement of disclosure related to a course he has taught says: “Dr Dinan has received honoraria [cash payments] from and is a member of the speakers board and advisory board for Lilly, Pfizer, Lundbeck, and Organon.” (Reference here)
    The professor’s Cork Neuroscience Group is funded by, among others, the Wellcome Trust (which funds biomedical research) and GlaxoSmithKline, which itself resulted from two mergers. The first merger saw Burroughs Wellcome, founder of the Wellcome Trust, join with Glaxo plc, to form GlaxoWellcome. This later fused with SmithKline Beecham to create GSK, second largest drug company in the world and manufacturer of Seroxat/Paxil.
    He speaks at meetings which advocate the view that depression is underdiagnosed in Ireland by as much as 75% and that SSRIs are an essential treatment. For an example, see here
    Signing himself as Timothy Dinan, MD, PhD, FRCPsych, FRCPI, Professor of Psychiatry, University College Cork, the academic was one of six professors of psychiatry who penned a letter published in the Irish Times on 16 November 2006 demanding the resignation of the then Minister for Mental Health, Tim O’Malley, for two reasons.
    One, O’Malley had dared to suggest that many everyday difficulties of life were being mis-labeled as ‘clinical depression’. Secondly, he had dared to suggest, with good reason, that the alleged benefits of medications used to treat mental illness cannot be proven scientifically in the way that other medications can. Both suggestions are cardinal sins for those who rule the world of psychiatry, and whose word is law among the students they teach.
    Interestingly, the ‘six professors letter’ drew a ferocious wave of disagreement, from former patients, from psychiatrists and GPs, from nurses, and from senior sociologists who have been studying the the use of psychiatric medications and such ‘therapies’ as electro-shock for many years.
    Among the ‘senior psychiatrists’ who disagreed with the six ruling professors was a former professor, perhaps the most distinguished professor of psychiatry this country has produced, Professor Emeritus Dr Ivor Browne.
    Clearly, the response to that intervention has not blunted the desire of at least one of their number to chill debate and silence critics of institutional psychiatry and bad medicine.
    In this latest attempt, the most chilling part of the complaint is that Corry made “statements regarding the pharmacology of antidepressants”. If such a complaint was upheld as valid, neither Dr Corry nor any other doctor registered with the Irish Medical Council could ever again ‘make a statement’ on the action of a drug such as Seroxat or Lexapro — or, by extension, of any drug.
    For the full report by the Sunday Tribune on the complaint against Michael Corry, see the right-hand column or go here
    For the debate stirred up by Minister O’Malley’s remarks in 2006, see here

    http://wellbeingfoundation.com/debate.html

    • Lynn Says:

      Wow. It’s at least good to hear that the ordinary doctor “on-the-street” is finding the courage to stand up to these lying bastards.

  8. paul o'mahony Says:

    Anon & Truthman30,
    Thank you very much for adding those valuable links and info. We need such a flow of intelligence.
    I’d love to encourage everyone to use their proper names so as to show that we are capable of standing up for our position in public.

  9. anon Says:

    From what I gather, people post with nicknames and anonymously because they have been attacked (or are afraid of being attacked) and also there are legal reasons, all that matters to some of us , is that the information gets out there. The information itself holds its own power, I believe.

    It would be great if some journalists could bring this information to the public though, but it seems that they are also too scared to tackle the psychiatric/pharmaceutical alliance.

    At least the information is out there, and people can interpret that as they will , I think that’s , at least, a very good thing. I doubt if they will be successful in their attempt to discredit and debase Michael Corry. The truth is blindingly obvious , the psychiatrists on the pharmaceutical payrolls are corrupt to the core, they discredit themselves enough anyway with their devious behavior, arrogant attitudes and sheer nerve.

    Psychiatry has been conning people and destroying peoples lives for long enough. Michael Corry is among a select few who dare to tell the truth, the others are just self serving, self interested, self motivated , egotistical gangsters who couldn’t give a damn about the damage that these drugs are doing. They care purely for their own careers. If people read the information , I’m pretty sure they can see the truth of this situation. Those who take pharmaceutical cash cannot be trusted, the conflict of interest itself is enough to discredit them and render there opinions biased.

    • Paul O'Mahony (Cork) Says:

      Anon,

      Thank you for your views. You make a strong point about the power of ideas to stand on their own two feet.

      You also say
      “people post with nicknames and anonymously because they have been attacked (or are afraid of being attacked) and also there are legal reasons”.
      I don’t understand what you mean about people being attacked or afraid of being attacked. I’ve been out of Ireland most of my life, so I may not yet be familiar with what happens here. “Attacked” is a strong word to me. It smack of something more than the clash of advocates for different sides of this issue. What are you implying?
      Also, what “legal reasons” are there for people not standing by their view in public. If you are employed by HSE, are you debarred from expressing an opinion? Is that it?
      My view is that you weaken your case by your anonymity. I find you state your case in strong language, and I find myself asking whether you would repeat such an opinion if you could be identified.
      If I was on the other side (and I stress I completely support Dr Corry’s right to critique the use of drugs), I would be pleased to face anonymous views. I would dismiss them as coming from people who had not the courage to stand up for their ideas. I’m not saying you don’t have courage of your convictions, but I am concerned that the case for Dr Corry is not being made as openly and honestly as possible.
      Please tell me I’m naive, that there are thought police out there or whatever.
      Dr Dinan seems to have been paid for his opinions. That, in itself, isn’t sufficient to prove that he’s wrong. It just undermines his credibility.
      I’ve used drugs for my depression. I control my use of them. I don’t let any doctor dictate to me. Psychiatrists are clinging on for dear life: they were almost discredited because of their results. In other words, there is not enough evidence that their treatments work to inspire confidence in their methods.
      The really big problem, in my opinion, is that health care professionals are being treated as if they were the best judges of mental health treatments. Those who have mental health issues are really the best judges. I know the best way to treat me, far better than any doctor will ever know.
      Even in the call to action that heads this blog, there is a call for health professionals to put their view forward to the authorities. Unfortunate this. Why was the call not issued to all? Doctors and psychiatric nurses squabble among themselves while those of us whom you serve are pushed to the side.

      Please rectify this.

      I wish you all well, and congratulate you on striving to improve things for us all.

  10. leonie fennell Says:

    I have just taken this down from the internet…
    “Dr. Dinan has received honoraria ( a fee for professional services) from and is a member of the speakers/ advisory board for lilly, pfitzer, lundbeck, and organon”.
    Lundbeck is the makers of cipramil, which is the drug shane was put on the first time he saw the doctor! He took them for five days and then took the rest of the months supply alltogether! then i took him to another doctor who prescribed citrol.. He was dead a week later!
    This is 2009.. how can timothy dinan be allowed to make a complaint about Dr. Corry??
    He can hardly be unbiased!
    leonie (shanes mum)

  11. Paul O'Mahony (Cork) Says:

    Leonie,
    Thank you very much. It would also be good to have the link to where your found that info in the internet.

    As for the question “how can Timothy Dinan be allowed to make a complaint about Dr Corry”, he has the right. Timothy Dinan can complaint to the medical council about whoever he likes. He is a free citizen.

    The issue is not whether he is entitled to complain, but how the complaint is processed. Already his reputation is damaged by the revelation (which I think he also made himself) that he is a hired hand of pharmaceutical companies.

    But I don’t think it’s badly damaged. After all the whole medical profession is in the pay of the drug companies. If you look at the free stationary used by GPs you’ll see almost all doctors are taking freebies from drug companies. It’s deeply in the culture of the medical profession. They save costs at every turn. Of course it would be much more ethical if doctors had a code of practice that declared that they never take anything from drug companies except training on how to use their drugs.

    The great thing about this action against Dr Corry is that it prods people like you and me to get involved and show our hand. That’s why I’m glad to see Dr Corry being complained against. Otherwise the practice of psychiatrists would continue unchallenged and unchanged.

    The profession of psychiatrists need their behaviour to be scrutinized in order to move them on towards a much more insightful practice. Otherwise they’ll drift back into simply doing a job, taking the money…

  12. truthman30 Says:

    The way I see it is thus..

    In any other profession, legal, political, etc… monetary conflicts of interest are automatically associated with inherent bias. It would be outrageous to think otherwise. Why is it any different with psychiatry? Why should psychiatrists be allowed to openly flaunt their connections to the pharmaceutical industry without public condemnation and suspicion and why are their connections not scrutinized? Why must we accept that its fine for psychiatrists to do business with pharmaceutical companies? while at the same time it’s clearly not ok for a politician to have conflicts of interest , or a solicitor or a policeman ,these kinds of things are frowned upon by society at large but why not in the medical profession?

    The crux of the issues are ethics, trust and morality.

    Who are we to entrust our mental health to? Those whom serve pharmaceutical puppet masters, or those whom serve the interests of their patients and their own conscience?…..

  13. magarlick Says:

    Wow thanks for the info very informative and helpful. Thanks again

  14. truthandconsequences1 Says:

    Dr Michael Corry was one of the true heroes of modern Ireland.

    He supported me when I was mobbed by a group of three unscrupulous “mainstream” psychiatrists (I will not name them here) acting on behalf of my employer. These individuals facilitated my employer’s scapegoating of me by pronouncing me mentally ill and attributing my purported mental illness to non-existent deficiencies in myself rather to my employer’s bullying of me.

    These individuals are “eminent” consultant psychiatrists in one of the main publicly funded mental institutions in this country (Heaven help their patients!) who were supplementing their presumably already generous salaries by acting as “hired guns” for my employer.

    They are a disgrace to the medical profession.

    I will never forget and I will be forever grateful for Dr Corry’s courage, compassion, integrity and intelligence.


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